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Mrs. Ohoud
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PostSubject: 1st Assignment   Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:23 am

Hello dear ladies,

This is your first assignment and I hope you all do a great job Wink . Remember, analyze don't paraphrase.

PS: This thread will be open for 2 weeks.



35/10
by Sharon Olds

Brushing out our daughter’s brown
silken hair before the mirror
I see the grey gleaming on my head,
the silver-haired servant behind her. Why is it
just as we begin to go
they begin to arrive, the fold in my neck
clarifying as the fine bones of her
hips sharpen? As my skin shows
its dry pitting, she opens like a moist
precise flower on the tip of a cactus;
as my last chances to bear a child
are falling through my body, the duds among them,
her full purse of eggs, round and
firm as hard-boiled yolks, is about
to snap its clasp. I brush her tangled
fragrant hair at bedtime. It’s an old
story—the oldest we have on our planet—
the story of replacement.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:16 pm

Hello,
this is my analyzing for the poem, and I hope it's correct Smile

In the poem 35/10 the speaker talks about her daughter, and from the title we can know the age of the speaker and her daughter. The speaker is comparing herself with her daughter, which has a silky brown hair and perfect skin while she has grey hair and the age had affected her skin. And she is describing her daughter that she has a perfect body and soft skin while she doesn't. The feeling of jealousy and depressed is what the poem shows, that she is jealous from her young daughter. Also, the speaker feels that she is getting old and she can't have children anymore. The speaker said that her daughter in the begging of life and beauty, she did not lose anything yet. From the last two lines the speaker tells us that she is brushing her daughter's hair to bedtime and telling her a bedtime story. A story about replacement, that she is going to be a mother one day.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:19 pm

The poem talks about getting old, and the circle of life, when the speaker talks about her grey hair and her daughter's brown silky hair and comparing herself to her young daughter as she wonders why when children come to this life parents expect to leave it any minute, then she began to accept that the young replaces the old and her daughter is a replacement of her.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:27 pm

Hello Sara and Hana,

Thank you for being the first to post their assignments...
These are for you flower flower Wink
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:23 pm





The poem is about the life . It has alot of symbols .

(the silver gray hair / the fold neck / dry pitting ) which

Symbolize the eldary . Whale as (the brown hair / the fine bones / moist ) symbolize youth .


when
she bigen to leave the life, her daughter has started life . That is
life . One Generation dy and another born . This is the story of
replacement. !



Sarah Saad Abu Habib




sory for post it here but I can't post it in (1st Poem)
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PostSubject: 35/10 poem analysis   Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:06 am

Sharon Olds' poem "35/10" is a narrative poem about a mother's realization that she is aging as her daughter is blooming. The mother is the speaker, which is also the author, speaks directly to the readers. The lines of the poem symbolize youth. The chronological order of the poem shows that the mother notices that she is now should be replaced by her daughter in life. The title represents the mother age '35' and the daughter age '10'. Words such as gray, silver, dry pitting, and dud represent the mother while silken, flower, full, and round represent the daughter.
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PostSubject: hope its right   Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:04 pm

in this pome the narrator wants to show us the compearing btween tow person the mother and her daughter , she compear herself to her daughter to shwo that how much the diffrent btsween them As the speaker's own skin begins to dry, the daughter's "purse" fills with "eggs, round and firm as hard-boiled yolks and the graying hiar that she feel her self too old and doesnt has any beauty compered by her daughrt
and when the mother brushing her daughter hair she tell her the story of replacement until she sleep Smile Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:59 pm

hi ,
When the speaker brushes her daughter hair she notes some differences between her and the young girl . First of all , they sit before the mirror so, the mother shows her girl’s face and her hair in the same time . It means she looks to the back and front sides of her daughter . Then she comprises her gray hair with the another brown silken hair she show it by the mirror. After that , she says ( the fold in my neck ) this verse shows us the overweight of the speaker because she has a fold in her neck on the other hand the teenager has a(fine bones of her hips sharpen)she is in a fit shape and a style body but her mother dose not . The women her in this poem want to tells her girl’s some wise words ( precise flower on the tip of a cactus ) the flower simile of her heart it is on the top part of her body and the cactus is a symbol of the fold in her neck and the dry pitting in her body .So , she mentions her teenager to look at the flower and care about it which is her heart but does not look to the cactus (the body of the mother ) and do not judge the book from its title . Finally, she says to her daughter I was a teenager and I had a brown silken hair and a good shape and my mother was like me now had a fold in her neck and shadow in her face . So , because it is a replacement story you will be like me and my mother and your daughter will be like you now . It is an old story
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:45 pm

Sharon olds is expressing her own feeling in this poem towards getting older, she's feeling depressed and sad, in the comparison between her and her daughter we can see it clearly. she felt like she's no longer useful and her time is about to end (described herself as a silver-haired maid) . also, she said "the story of replacement" which means when some begin to leave (Sharon) others begin to arrive ( Sharon's daughter) that every generation will experience. from this poem we can describe Sharon as a woman who has middle age crisis.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:22 pm

"35-10" is poem that written by sharon olds it is narrative poem , she is a mother who talking with her daughter and comparing between herself and her daughter ,the title represent the mother age(35) and the daughter age (10), the speaker is the mother and the audience .
Words such as gray, silver, dry pitting, and dud represents the mother, while silken, flower, full, and round represent the daughter.
There are many alliteration such as " out-our / gery – gleaming / silver- servant / through- them "
The tone is reflective and pensive , and the language is simple and understandable

good night Sleep


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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:11 am

Hi
In the poem 35/10 the speaker talks about her daughter, and comparing between her self and her daughter when she brushing her daughter's hair ,she look at her daughter’s brown
silken hair and her silver- grey hair. Also the fold in her neck and the fine bones of her daughter
hips sharpen. From the title we know that she is 35 years old and her daughter is 10.also she want to say that she start to being older while her little girl opens like a moist
precise flower on the tip of a cactus. There is some symbol like silver gray hair , the fold neck , dry skin which means that she begin to be older. Also brown hair ,the fine bones ,moist shows the young. In the last stanza she trying to leave a massage which is your children will take your place, and this is the story of replacement. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:33 am

Hello ladies,

Thank you for posting your assignments during the first week Very Happy . Keep it up. Of course those of you who copied and pasted their answers from http://www.freeessays.cc/db/37/pya100.shtml are getting a zero. I'm extremely disappointed that some of you still copied/pasted although I've been telling you not to for the past three weeks No .
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:41 am



This is my analyzing for the poem


The poem is written by Sharon Olds presenting a mother as the main character in this poem as well as her daughter. The piece can be considered as a narrative poem that pictures the mother talking to her daughter, the other main character in the poem, while setting in front of the mirror. The mother is speaking her mind while brushing her daughter’s hair and realizing the biological changes, in terms of the looks, that occurred to both her daughter and herself. The visible changes such as the brown hair of the daughter and the grey hair of the mother. Also, there is the description of the way the skin on the mother’s neck look in comparison with the skin of her daughter’s hip. In a philosophical way, the writer describes the next generation or one’s children as replacements of themselves. This is clear when the mother sees her daughter as her replacement.

10/35, the title of the poem, represents the age difference between the mother and her daughter. Certain words such as silver, grey, and dud represents the mother in this poem. On the other hand, other words like flower, round, and full represent the daughter.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:40 am

''35/10'' is a narrative poem. It is written by Sharon olds. In this poem, the speaker a thirty-five year old women while her daughter is ten year old. She senses her power is weakening and her daughter`s power is strengthening. She sadness for her advancing years. She shows her jealousy by describing her eggs as'' falling through my body duds among them'' while her daughter has '' her full purse of eggs, round and firm as hard-boiled yolks'' which means, the mother is jealousy for her daughter`s youth. At the end the speaker knows that her daughter will replace her one day.
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:10 am

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PostSubject: 35/10 poem by Sharon Old   Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:54 am

The speaker in 35/10 poem by Sharon Old talks about his mother and his images about her, as if she a young daughter. His images begin as a grey gleaming in his head. Then he starts to describe what he saw in his mother and how she was. She is that a beautiful daughter has a silken hair; it was the mirror of his mother's hair. Also, the narrator represented for us how this daughter looks like and her youth that was like a moist and a flower on the tip of a cactus. Finally, the speaker remembers us the picture of his mother as it an old story happens in our plant.
The poet used some tones in this poem. There is alliteration in the 3 verse (gray – gleaming), Also in the 4 verse (silver- servant), the poem use in the 8 and 11 verses the sound (sh - ch) in (sharpen – show), (chance – child) to give the nice effect of that moment. Consonant in the 13 and 18 verses (purse – eggs), and (oldest – plant).Finally, assonances in the 14 and 15 verses (hard – about) and (snap – clasp).
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:30 am

''35/10'' is a narrative poem. It is written by Sharon olds. The mother is the speaker, also the author. In this poem a mother's brushing of her daughter's "dark silken hair" becomes an occasion for meditation on the "story of replacement". As the speaker's own skin begins to dry, the daughter's "purse" fills with "eggs, round and firm as hard-boiled yolks." In her child's handheld mirror the differences are noted when the narrator observes her graying hair and folds in her neck that are clearly visible. The words such as silver,gray and dry pitting represents the mother, flower and while silken represent the daughter.
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PostSubject: analyz the 3510 poem   Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:44 am

hii teacher sunny Very Happy

sharon olds is the writer of the 35\10 ,which is refer to the age of the characters in the poem, it's a realstic poem that describing the diffrent age between the mother and her daughter , during the poem we notice that the mother expressing her feeling about getting old by comparaing her
self with her daughter, in the begning ot the poem she become a little sad coz she become old , and the thing that makes her realize that is when she burishing daughter's hair and describe it as a brown silken hair at the same time she look to her grey hair front of the mirror gleaming in her head ,then she starts to look to the whole her body and noticing the things that change becauz of oldness which make her think that maybe this will bs the last time of her to bear a child , at the end she told us that she burshing her daugter's hair at the bedtime and telling her a story of replacment that she will become in her position and havin' a child taking care of like what she did .. Wink

that's it ... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:50 am

35/10 is a poem written by sharon olds which is about a mother and her daughter , in the poem the mother is comparing her looks to her daugter by describing her hair as a brown sillken her and her greay hair coz she's old , in the poem the mother is a littel jelous from her daughter coz she'z young and the thing that make's her jelous is when she brushing her daughter's hair front of the mirror she looks to her self and her daghter and notice the diffrents which make her a disappointed that she's old and bcome a ugly , then she take her dughter to the bed and telling her an old story of replacment that she will be a mother somday ...

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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:17 am

This poem shows us the reality of our lives. That is every day new babies come to this life while another people leave it. We can see the the comparison that the mother made it between herself and daughter. when the mother is in front of the mirror she notes the difference between her gray hair and her daughter's brown silken hair. Also she notes that her daughter's skin is like a flower, while her skin is dry and pale. She is disappointment to have a new baby. All of that happened to her because she is 35 years and she feels that she is an old woman, while her daughter is still 10 years old. One day the daughter will grow up and be like her mother. At the end, the life replaces the old generation with a new one. You win some you lose some. This is the reality of the life ..
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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:43 pm

The poem 35\10 by Sharon Olds is a narrative poem. we realize from its title that the speaker is comparing between two ages. In the first lines, the mother (the speaker) is staring at the mirror in front of her, brusheing her daughter's hair and describeing it as a brown silken hair ,but hers is a grey silver gleaming hair. Then she notic that she is aging,her neck has folds and her skin is dry pitting, while her daughter is young like a precise flower. Also she talks about her chances of bearing a child that is less than her daughter's, since she is getting old. Fainely,the speaker is realizing that this is the story of live, also the oldest one on our planet,the story of replacement.


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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:33 am

hello

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It is a narrative poem written by Sharon Olds in which the mother is the speaker.She brushes her doughter's hair and talks before the mirror,realizing that she is aging while her daughter is blooming .It is a comparison in which she describes the biological differencees that are clearly visible. The daughter has silky brown hair while the mother has gray hair . She notices that the age has affected her skin and shape ( appearance ). It is also a story of replacement because the mother finds her self in her daughter .

The title simply represents the ages, the mother being 35 and the daughter being 10.Words such as gray, silver, dry pitting, and dud represents the mother, while silken, flower, full, and round represent the daughter.


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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:25 am

Greetings


The speaker is a mother brushing her daughter's hair and describing it with all good things such as silken and brown while her hair, on the other hand, is grey which indicates her ageing. Sadly, she wonders why does one's leaving mean the other's coming and in this case, her daughter's becoming a woman, a grown up, and her becoming an old lady with a folded neck that is nothing like the sharpening hips of her daughter. She keeps describing her daughter, this time as "a moist precise flower on the tip of a cactus" and knowing that cactuses grow in hot, dry areas such as deserts, we might guess that it refers to a mother and daughter, our mother and daughter. Then, the mother moves to another subject, she's done talking about the appearance and brings her incapability of having more children to the surface. She talks about her falling opportunities and her daughter's "full purse of eggs" ready to carry a child, two and three! She brushes her daughter's hair with the oldest story leaping before her, "the story of replacement" of someone taking your place, doing your job, a story of a silken haired daughter with a body full of eggs.



* I read somewhere that the poem has 18 lines which may refer to the age 18, the symbol of youth or so.

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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:02 am

I like 35/10 poem because when I read this poem I feel that I see the mother and her daughter And I Compare between them I think also that is the mother Describe The reality of life and how you are going older and your son is young .when she brush her daughter heir she remembered herself when she was young and she think that is the life is too fast and she did not realize that is her hair grey and her skin is dray
Also I think she Began to be afraid of death and she Wishes that she is In the place of her daughter .in the end of the poem she said that she tells her daughter a story of replacement and she mean that she tells her daughter there will come someday and you will be old and your daughter young just like me .

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PostSubject: Re: 1st Assignment   Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:51 am

The human passes through different ages and one of them is when you see your body changes and you can see that when you look at the youth. In this poem the speaker is a mother, who brush out her daughter's hair in front of the mirror. And she compares between she and her daughter. She is youth or child with her brown silken hair and her mother describes herself with the grey silver-haired on her head, the fold in her neck and the bones of her hips are appearance and she ask, "why is it."
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